Thought Experiment – Is Islam a Religion?

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“In order to be protected under the Equality Act 2010, a religion or belief must be recognised as being cogent, serious, cohesive and compatible with human dignity.” The Equality Act 2010.

OK – so if you have been following this blog you will know my position on this – the belief system of Islam in fact contravenes Human Rights and the Equalities Act in a major and fatal way – IT IS NOT compatible with human dignity.

The ‘Religion of Peace’ as it is not, has been responsible for the vast majority of terrorist attacks on the West in the last 15 years. This is not to even fathom the horrors committed in its name across the world – Boko Haram and Isis are today’s major league players, but humble and sadly too oft-forgotten old Saudi Arabia, Iran and Yemen are serious about adhering to Islam and are consistent deniers of Human Rights to their citizens as well as funders of terror globally. Yet our leaders keep calling it a ‘religion’ and affording it the same respect as those far more moral belief systems – Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism and Judaism.

So let’s imagine for a moment that it was Scientology disciples who were currently rampaging through Nigeria, attacking, raping, pillaging and killing at will over an area the size of Belgium. Would there not be a massive public outcry at least in the West, and a quick spate of legislation to ban it within our shores?

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What if I suddenly today decided to worship Charles Manson, the notorious satanist cult leader who was found guilty in 1971 of instructing his group of followers to murder 7 people including Roman Polanski’s wife, Sharon Tate. What if I started to receive ‘revelations’ from god that he was the last of all prophets and that his ‘teachings’ were to be prized as god’s very word. What if I began recruiting people to similarly share in this belief, began to open places of worship for Manson and his special god, and then decided to have my belief system enshrined as a ‘religion’?

Well, yes, this idea sounds crazy and far fetched.

Yet as recently as 2013, the Supreme Court Justices of the UK redefined religion in law so as to allow the cult of Scientology to conduct weddings. Scientology was begun in 1951 as a way of selling more self-help books by the science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard. It has disciples including Tom Cruise and John Travolta, and its followers believe that souls (thetans) are aliens which lived on other planets before Earth. The belief system is followed by thousands internationally, and requires the expenditure of thousands of dollars to progress through stages of enlightenment. So much nonsense, yet it is recognised in the USA, Australia, Sweden, Portugal and the Netherlands as a tax-exempt ‘religion’.

Now Scientology is guilty of alleged bullying, intimidation, brainwashing and persecution of critics through litigation. Most normal people would avoid like the plague, and seriously question the sanity of any followers. But ultimately, it hasn’t as yet begun beheading and routinely massacring non-believers. L. Ron Hubbard wasn’t as far as I know a warmonger who himself killed Jews and Christians, and incited his followers in his lifetime to kill and torture. Therefore, whilst his fraudulently named ‘religion’ is an annoyance and probably ruins lives or at the very least defrauds its gullible members as well as tax receipts, it is not quite a matter of critical importance to the survival of freedom, democracy and Human Rights if it is allowed to exist and benefit from the ‘religion’ misnomer.

Ok, so what if, by some strange loophole, I managed to get my Charles Manson belief system enshrined as a ‘religion’. Or perhaps not I, but my descendants. Perhaps over the next few hundred years, people just became used to the existence of these Charles Manson worshippers, and started to call the practice, a religion. What would happen if suddenly, though not quite out of the blue, these religionists began copycat murders? What if the murders grew and grew, and torture was added? What if the ‘Book of Manson’ was full of incantations to believe in no other ‘god’. What if this book ordered unbelievers to be killed, enslaved or tortured? What if money were extorted from unbelievers as a tax to exist in lands which had been conquered by armies of ‘Charles Mansonists’ and were now called ‘Mansonic’ nations. What if, Mansonists openly promised to turn the entire globe into one big Mansonic state, with its own laws and punishments? What if these included hanging, the cutting off of hands, the persecution of unbelievers, the enslaving of unbelievers, the whipping of any who criticised it and the acceptability of murder, stoning, crucifixion, rape and pillage as tactics of war?

Do we think that at this stage, perhaps any nations which were not yet Mansonic would begin to consider the wisdom of allowing Mansonsists to openly recruit and preach within their borders? Perhaps for a while now Mansonists had been crying foul on counts of ‘Mansonphobia’ and discrimination? We don’t like to sound extreme or intolerant, so we agree when Mansonists call their faith ‘The Religion of Peace’ – despite evidence to the contrary worldwide, through history, and increasingly with attacks on home soil? Would we accept that the, say, third of the globe now ruled by Mansonic laws and full of the most blatant infringements of Human Rights were somehow aberrant states ruled by dictators? That the faith itself was peace-loving, and that Charles Manson had been keen on gracious co-existing with other faiths in his lifetime, apart from that one spate of murders?

Well no, the experiment would grind to a halt at this stage I suspect, when cries of ‘total improbability’ and ‘nonsense’ were heard crashing over my voice. How could the world tolerate such a regime, how would it not have been nipped in the bud with fatal precision in its inception? It would surely be outlawed by the UN and the Western World at the very least as inherently counter to all freedoms, democracy and Human Rights laws?

OK. Well that brings me to the question of what if, crazily, we replaced ‘Mansonism’ with ‘Islam’ and Manson himself with the prophet of Islam? In fact, Muhammad himself was responsible for hundred of killings either directly by his own hand or by instructing his followers during his lifetime. Since his death, the Koran has incited the killing of millions through its open-ended verses of violence.

Stoning of adulterers (including women who have been raped) is common to this day in Muslim nations such as Saudi Arabia. Beheading is a popular method of dispatching those deemed to be ‘enemies’ such as Drummer Lee Rigby and all the victims of Isis. The Koran gives precise and timeless instruction for punishments to be meted out to unbelievers, and the Armenian Genocide and the current genocide of Yazidis and other Muslims by Isis is testament that this is still to this day seen as a sensible interpretation.

Douglas Murray states that in his copy of the Qu’ran (Arberry translation, OUP) and read Chapter 8 (‘The Spoils [of war]’). Verse 12 has God saying:

‘I shall cast into the unbelievers’ hearts terror; so smite above the necks, and smite every finger of them.’

Murray asks;

“… what do Muslims do when they come across advice like that in the authoritative collection by Bukhari which includes (in ‘The Book of Jihad’) an answer to the question ‘If a pagan burnt a Muslim, should he be burnt?’ Of one such a group who displeased Muhammad we learn: ‘He (The Prophet) had their hands and feet cut off. Then he ordered that nails should be heated and passed over their eyes, and they were left in the rocky land of Medina. They asked for water, but none provided them with water till they died.’ [3018]

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk

Murray suggests many Muslims are unaware of the content of the Koran or Hadith when it comes to verses such as these – perhaps in a similar way as Christians haven’t all read the Bible. But importantly, Isis, Al-Quaeda, Boko Haram, Iran, Saudi etc don’t seem ignorant of these verses – for they constantly state they are Islamic groups and nations.

So why do our leaders, in the as yet free West, refuse to listen to the voices of warning about Islam, whether from ex-Muslims or from non-Muslims who see this for what it is – a cult of death masquerading as a religion? The wonderful Douglas Murray clarifies this:

“At some point our society seems to have informally decided that this discussion cannot be had. Perhaps it is because a Christian or post-Christian country just assumes that all religions are like Christianity and all religious founders must be Christ-like in their behaviour. Or perhaps it’s because a lot of people think the problem is insurmountable and will outlast them.”

Perhaps it is because many Muslims are brown, and our leaders and assorted apologists for Islam don’t want to sound all mean and akin to Hitler?

Yet whatever the reason for refusing to acknowledge the problem with Islam, this reaction to deny is wrong, and dangerous. For it is Islam which behaves like the Nazis – it hates Jews with a vengeance, persecutes any non-believers, openly preaches the desired aim to destroy ‘Freedom and Democracy’, and fails radically to give women equal rights.

Islam is fundamentally at odds with Human Rights legislation, and ‘in-compatible with human dignity’ – this is seen with Honour Killings, Female Genital Mutilation, the treatments of Humanity by Islamic groups and the attacks on freedom at Charlie Hebdo and of course the constant attacks on Jews most recently in Paris.

Let’s get real people – Islam is not a religion – it may have the trappings of one, but it is based on the teachings of a murderer who had 9 wives, one of whom was 6 when he wed her. His belief system violently conquered swathes of the world within a hundred years of his death – unlike Jesus, who died rather than ask his followers to kill for him. Islam is fundamentally amoral and needs be evaluated as a cult, brainwashing and terrorising people to retain its hold on them, rather than a religion – and because it runs counter to Human Rights and Equality law it should be outlawed.

We have a problem facing up to this, probably the history of the Holocaust and the Christian Empires leads our leaders to be shy of ‘offending’ the other, especially the ethnic other. But in doing so they are letting us down. We must demand clarity on this and we must do it soon – before we are engulfed.

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Please sign and share the petition asking our leaders to examine Islam honestly as to breaches of Human Rights law.

https://www.change.org/p/president-dean-spielmann-examine-whether-islam-is-antithetical-to-human-rights

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5 thoughts on “Thought Experiment – Is Islam a Religion?”

  1. I do believe what you have said is completely justified but the thing about ISIS and other terrorist groups is that they are extremist groups. They take what the Quran and take it to such a drastic measure. Those groups are not the proper representation of Islam. Due to those terrorist groups, they have changed Modern Islam. Al-Qaeda forced women to wear burqas and not go to school, before these terrorist groups existed these things never happened.

    But the Bible does have some invalid points, “Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God.” It puts homosexuals at the place of criminals which is truly not humane.

    Religions create ways to give a people of security and we have no right to deny that to a person.

    1. Sure I get that. The only problem is, Christianity no longer wants to rule the world. It may use non-violent means to persuade but we are grown ups and can deal with that. What I for one cannot deal with, is that too often now this ‘misinterpretation’ of yours is being misinterpreted in the SAME way, globally. I am ALL for people finding succour and solace through religious belief – but there are plenty of Muslim states where people can be Muslims to their heart’s content. I just don’t see why we in the non-Muslim world ought to pretend this is a valid religion of the same caliber as Christianity – for it is not founded on a MORAL person’s teachings. This is why I make the comparison to Manson. Manson had fewer people murdered than the prophet of Islam. It’s not really appropriate to take old testament quotes and apply them to now – for Christians HAVE moderated their behaviour. They no longer seek to conquer through violence – and I have full respect for that. If anything, Christianity and the West are too shy of offending through the promotion of what is GOOD about their systems. So yes, be a Muslim in a Muslim nation – just don’t come to the West and complain, demand special treatment, preach hate towards Western life and laws and kill Westerners. It is bad enough in Muslim countries when people are mistreated, but there is NO reason to allow this to happen more and more in the non-Muslim world.

  2. Reblogged this on Freedom Ain’t Free & Take Our Country Back and commented:
    Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 8, Number 387:
    Narrated Anas bin Malik:
    Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.’ And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah.” Narrated Maimun ibn Siyah that he asked Anas bin Malik, “O Abu Hamza! What makes the life and property of a person sacred?” He replied, “Whoever says, ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’, faces our Qibla during the prayers, prays like us and eats our slaughtered animal, then he is a Muslim, and has got the same rights and obligations as other Muslims have.”

    Islam is 180°out of phase with internation human rights covenants. For the details, see: https://www.scribd.com/doc/108500978/International-Qur-an-Petition

    Islam is mercenary; created for the Profit’s personal emolument. For the details, see: https://www.scribd.com/doc/227418623/Islam-s-Mercenary-Mission-Updated

    For the love of life and liberty, sign and promote the petition linked in the original post!!!

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